ROLLING STONE'S MUSICIANS ON MUSICIANSHOSTED BYROLLING STONE
For more than 50 years, the writers at Rolling Stone have been sitting down with artists to get inside their sound, their creative process, and the realities of being a musician — but what happens when we take the writer away and ask two great artists to interview each other?
In each episode, two iconic musicians sit down for a conversation about their discography, artistic approaches, personal lives, and everything in between. With the artists in charge, no topic is off-limits.
The Musicians on Musicians podcast offers extended, deep-dive versions of the conversations between artists that you can read in the November issue of Rolling Stone. With the musicians in the driver’s seat, this is not your typical interview series. You’ll get to hear the moments in which two musical forces connect — artist to artist, person to person.
Musicians on Musicians is adapted from Rolling Stone’s popular franchise.
Is carried throughout and worked out. But I also realized for me, the worst thing I can do is overthink it. I used to I used to come in, you know, ready for shows and and as a beginning singer in my career, early in my career, I had so much anxiety about singing. So I overthought the hell out of it And I took all the advice at once and, you know, listened to people who met well and who knew a lot of what they were talking about, but didn't know me and didn't know my voice. And, I learned a lot. When I started singing, I just I didn't take myself very seriously. And I just sang, like, really loud, really fierce, like, the whole time. No breasts. I didn't write songs that had breath space in them. Oh, yeah. Which you actually do also on the new record a lot. I was like, I was like, you might not be seeing, like, belting, but there's not a lot of breaks. Yeah. There's not a lot of vocal breaks. For you on when you're actually playing, do you make the instrumental parts longer? No. I actually kind of I usually, like, put in some some of the vocals in the backing track. So I don't have to, like, kill myself. I'm trying to trying to breathe. That's good. I I don't in one of my bands, it's all live. So, like, it's just Right. Me and I, like, was singing for years and never had a lesson. And I lost my voice. I had a polyp that had on my vocal cords Oh. Which had been going because I'd been in a punk band Right. For 7 years we usually have monitors. Like, you use any or anything. We didn't have in years back then. Yeah. But I feel like I'm totally, like, I'm Doctor Quinn Medicine. I'm coming back to from the might have been in the woods, but, I still don't use in ears because they they freak me out, but I'm gonna try and get into them before
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Consuming the writing. Absolutely. So I so I stepped away from writing and focused more on just the way it sounded And the, and when I say sounded the arrangement of the song, whether the material was good enough. But very rarely do I get involved in writing and try my best not to just from a time perspective. It's like it's a it's a it's a choice. Yeah. That's so that was the first piece. And then I used to work very, very long hours in the studio, which was standard in those days. Maybe for some people it still is. And I would work from, you know, an hour or 2 after I woke up until I was exhausted. Right. And then, you know, drove home as the sun was coming up and went slow. And I found it it wasn't the most effective use of time being in the studio that long. And I, I, again, just through doing it a long time, I started seeing, okay, what is what's important? What are the most important things to happen in the studio and what are the most important parts for me to be there for? And when we're doing, let's say we're recording a band and it's basic tracks. It's really important that I'm there for the basic tracks. If one of the musicians wants to try a bunch of different overdubs to see which is the best one, I might not be there for that. No. For the singer to do the vocals, I'm probably there for the vocals because it's front and center and where we really are aware of it. And then, in the in the stuff that happens when I'm not there, I get to listen to it the next day and say, this really works. Maybe there's a better version of this. Let's try adding one of these, or it's perfect just the way it is. So I found through now usually the sessions that I I have are from, let's say, 1 in the afternoon to 6 in the evening for me. And then I leave, but there's usually a list of things to
For us first. And, and basically, this guy's radio DJ in LA heard us on Dutch radio and went. I'd love for you to come and play my my, gig night in LA. And my managers were like, I'm depressed as fuck because no one just wants to give me a deal or whatever. I'll give you the light of day. So they're like, we gotta fucking give him a treat or something or he's gonna fucking go mental. So as it Dex said, come to New York, because technically the border was less strict in New York, so I could take all my gear through without fucking you know what I mean? Having to be caught. You know what I mean? I don't know what you're talking about. Yeah. You had a lot of equipment with me. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Exactly. So it's like 10 of us went in separately. And then I did a couple writing sessions in New York. And, basically this guy who was writing with was in the Literally. And I'd snip that, was was working in the Universal building. So I took my fucking one of my best mates, his name's Emmet Power, and he's Irish, pretended to be my drummer. Because if you get in the Universal building, you gotta put fucking stickers on. Yeah. That like That's right. Yeah. You know what I mean? For security reasons. And I remember Emmett rode the elevator, or pretended to be me drummer in the studio. Who knew? Pretend no. Pretend it to be me drummer, and would talk to all the A and Rs in the lift and be like, you heard this young blood kid, yeah? Playing rock and roll on floor 3, I'll blow your fucking tits off. And you know, a and r's are like sheep, aren't they? Oh, yeah. So everyone starts talking. I know. Sorry. Sorry. But I don't care. It's like they'll they'll all Have to be popular and make friends in the news pages. I mean, but they're all talking. They're all fucking start talking and then news travels to the West Coast after they started talking. I traveled to the West Coast and we signed a record deal 2 days later in in in America because we just went
